"fighting For Honor" By Tj Desch Obi: A Book Review Discussion With Karl Hezekiah

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The line I’m on the way you’re doing I’m doing great man good to hear from you again I know you guys suffered some inclement weather so.

To speak a few weeks ago so I’m happy that you’re safe and sound thank you very much not a problem so again this is the book club book review of the what month is that.

September we’re reviewing a September reading which is fighting for honor the history of African martial art traditions in the Atlantic world and the author of that book is TJ debt OB I’m joined today.

By Carla Sakaya who’s the who’s usually the curator of the bitter.

Medicine book club but this book actually was suggested by Oh neat essay from the pro-black perspective podcasts hair on kwmg radio carl once again pleasure to have you on let’s talk about this book first.

Of all what were your thoughts about the book overall I think this book is a valuable historical look at martial arts tradition and you always say about Asian martial arts you know karate kungfu Taekwondo but I outside of capoeira I never really knew too much about the African origins of martial art traditions and how effective they were so I think this book really sheds a lot of light on a forgotten element of history and how enslaved people’s brought their traditions not just their religion in their music but also their warrior traditions as.

Well across the Atlantic to be the slave trade I think it really is a testament to the strength of the hue of African spirit within a presser system mm-hmm do you have any thoughts as to why you’ve never heard you know about African martial arts why do you think it is the case that you and most of us never really learned about African martial or Montu arts I think it probably goes.

Back to the same reason why we never really learned about African history we all always want to portray the African is docile as.

Someone who didn’t fight back or someone who who never really was able to defend themselves so this book really flies in the face of a lot of police that were previously held.

About African people and and and the thing that they contribute it was just funny because there’s always been a long.

History of African people fighting and defending themselves it wasn’t just primitive warfare it was it was a great deal of uh of warriors and and and people who were captured in wars that brought them to be in the world yeah I um I had a similar take as you I.

I shook my head because again you know I talked about this on the podcast a couple weeks ago but when you’re trying to protect against hegemony you know you’re trying to protect this just in society thinking.

You can’t allow for others to kind of shine so they want to always make the Africans seem.

Like he or she is the least of things is is not worthy and you know if you have your own design and develop martial art system that proves that you’re worthy that proves that you’re on par with everyone else and they don’t want the regular everyday African a black person knowing that about themselves so it’s a shame it’s a shame really the lengths that these people go.

To but I understand when you’re organizing for yourself you don’t have time I guess to bolster other people so you try and organize against and so Africans black people can learn something from that that you have to tell your own truth about yourselves you have to tell your own story and this book does a great job so let’s get into this book today so okay this book has.

Two parts but as has been the case with all of the readings that we’ve done not too dissimilar from the.

Current reading we’re doing this month of October which is the Chancellor Williams book the destruction of black civilization this book is also a.

Bit of a dense read it’s very repetitive in a lot of places but I think it’s good because this.

Covers some geographical locations and some people’s in Africa that most of us aren’t familiar with and so to kind of get the names and the labels and titles down I guess the author had.

To be repetitive but this book is in two parts the first part is called birth of traditions and that consists of two parts and the second part is.

Across two Colunga and that word Columbia is gonna be important that’s broken down into about four pie sokar in the first part of part one is called from across to Colunga you want to tell.

The people what Colunga stands for well my interpretation that the Kalinga is the ocean across the sea yeah so so yeah the Colunga is this inverted ancestral ram it’s like an upside-down world that’s accessible to bodies of water so the.

The Africans back in the day they felt like the ocean was a portal so to speak and the oppression that they were facing in America or the Americas was the inversion of the ancestral homeland right where was peace and it was positive and prosperous so that’s the Colunga another word they used in this first section as the in go low and go low is a ritual combat it to be used for recreation community rites of passage that type.

Of thing and in this first part of the chapter and I’m sure Carl has some more notes on this but in this first part what I got from it they trying to get across to you that many of the soldiers responsible for defense of their communities were enslaved and because they were enslaved they had to carry these two concepts with them across the ocean Colunga that it was an inverted I’m.

Stressful around accessible through bodies of water and Angola was their ritual.

Combat so this is what they did to achieve honor even while being bonded but what are your thoughts on that first part of the book um what I like what you mentioned.

In go low and the first page were and although emerged out of the shared ancestral concepts of religion combat and body mapping that appear to have coalesced in somewhat similar forms so I guess in go.

Low encompasses the religion and the the other actions of it but one thing.

I thought was interesting it a lot of martial art styles in Asian martial arts they mimic animals so they have you know the five animals come the tiger the.

Length of the snake the crane but in Angola they often base.

Many of their fighting styles off of zebra or.

Or their or their cattle when they would fight their bulls with Ram heads with each other I thought that was.

Very interesting how they mimicked the animal styles similar to what was done and Asian martial arts mm-hmm because.

Asian martial arts is just basically a version of African martial arts right but that goes to show you how intelligent the African was they were the African of the first set of scientists the first observers and so they observe yes they observe these behaviors and the animals and.

Self-defense I had posted a video of on Facebook of some zebras kind of playfully fighting and how the older zebras were standing by watching that not something like the book talks about with the Africans and Farsi Angola was concerned like it was a lot of times it would it was.

Recreational and stuff but the elders stood by and watched and judged.

And I thought I was interested in how the Africans saw that and made that a part of culture and on page 37 it mentions is a.

Zebra as a role model for combat also makes sense in the context of the all-important evasive ability of the exterior defenses in combat since for the coup meaning the zebra was a symbol of nimbleness so when even in their act not just attacking but in defense it says how the zebra it’s.

A prey animal but it’s not an easy animal to kill and I think that some I read somewhere that that other zebra is actually responsible for.

More injuries in zoos in any of them oh really they’re quick to bite they’re they quick to bite they’re quick to kick that is what does the reason why the zebra was never tamed mmm you know there’s a reason why that by no one has ever been able to fully domesticate the zebra as a species because of its nature because it lives in and of apex predators it has to be on guard I’m willing to fight at any.

Time yeah yeah the book just does talk about the fact that zebras will stand up and fight the day retreat is only tactical at best so yeah that’s a good point anything else about that stood out to you um I really like how big these particular tribesmen who.

Were adept at this art were.

So feared even with being we went fine on combat how the Europeans will be afraid to go in trade slaves in that particular era area mm-hmm the Portuguese were had a had a healthy respect of their fighting abilities so it wasn’t in any way I know we’ve always been taught.

That to be African is to be less than but their fighting ability was respected.

By both their friends and their and their foes as well yes yeah I like how they mentioned how long Queen and zynga.

One of the great African Queens who fought against the Portuguese how her skill was so great that she would be willing to fight anyone outside of having a musket.

She was not afraid of any combatant yes now one thing we should mention is that the people that this book talks about is the Igbo people or the ebo people right which is one of the largest ethnic groups in Africa.

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